Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/27/2003 01:35 PM Senate L&C

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           HB  64-PURCHASE OF STRUCTURED SETTLEMENTS                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR BUNDE announced HB 64 to be up for consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAUL LABOLLE, staff to Representative Foster, sponsor, said                                                                 
this bill sets up oversight for transfers of structured                                                                         
settlements, primarily for three reasons. He explained:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     One  is consumer  protection. Factoring  companies have                                                                    
     been purchasing  structured settlements  for as  low as                                                                    
     20  cents on  the  dollar. A  structured settlement  by                                                                    
     definition is  tax-free. Once they have  lump-summed it                                                                    
     out, they  now have to pay  tax on their lump  sum. So,                                                                    
     whatever  the discount  hits them  for, taxes  hit them                                                                    
     for it again.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The second reason  is for the good of the  state. A lot                                                                    
     of times a  structured settlement is set  up because it                                                                    
     is  determined that  the payee  isn't equipped  to deal                                                                    
     with a large  lump sum and so they set  him up so there                                                                    
     will be a  continuous flow of cash. Once  they lump sum                                                                    
     it  out, they  spend up  all the  money, they  become a                                                                    
     burden on the state.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Also,  for  the good  of  the  state, these  structured                                                                    
     settlements  are  often   set  up  as  non-transferable                                                                    
     agreements,  but since  there is  no oversight  set up,                                                                    
     the  right hand  doesn't  know what  the  left hand  is                                                                    
     doing. So, they're happening illegally.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Third,  there is  a federal  tax law  currently on  the                                                                    
     books  [that]  passed  last year  which  imposes  a  40                                                                    
     percent prohibitive  tax on any transfer  of structured                                                                    
     settlements unless it has been  approved by a qualified                                                                    
     order, such as  a state statute, state  law or overview                                                                    
     of an administrative body.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked if HB 64 would apply to the legislature and                                                                   
GARVEE bonds. He noted the bill has a zero fiscal note and                                                                      
questioned whether there would be a cost for the court reviews.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LABOLLE said he didn't know the ins and outs of the court                                                                   
system or why it submitted a zero fiscal note.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked how many structured settlements get                                                                        
arranged in Alaska each year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LABOLLE replied that he wasn't sure.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked  if he won the lottery and  wanted an immediate                                                               
payout,  whether  the  court  would  have to  decide  if  he  was                                                               
competent to do that.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LABOLLE said that the  lottery isn't technically a structured                                                               
settlement.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  AL   TAMAGNI,  SR.,   Structured  Financial   Associates  of                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska, said  the  bill addresses  who  will pay  the                                                               
costs, which is the purchaser  of the annuity contract upon court                                                               
approval.  He indicated  that's why  the bill  has a  zero fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAMAGNI explained  that  his business  deals  with cases  of                                                               
personal  injury  or  wrongful death  and  workers'  compensation                                                               
where the people and the courts  may have decided they would like                                                               
to get periodic payments in lieu of a cash settlement. He noted:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Annuities  are  purchased  [indisc.] and  provide  some                                                                    
     people  with a  lifetime  income, either  on a  monthly                                                                    
     basis or a lump sum  basis or combinations with cost of                                                                    
     living escalators.  As a result of  that, under Section                                                                    
     104  A(2)  of  the  code [indisc.],  all  these  future                                                                    
     payments  are   exempt  from  gross  income.   And  the                                                                    
     payments are  to provide and  to maintain  the people's                                                                    
     style  of living,  provide  medical  expenses and  also                                                                    
     dependent expenses  in a lot  of cases. That's  kind of                                                                    
     what in general a structured settlement is.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RANDY DYER,  Executive Vice  President, National  Structured                                                               
Settlement  Trade Association,  supported Mr.  Tamagni's comments                                                               
but  clarified  that  the  bill  before  the  committee  was  not                                                               
intended to regulate a structured  settlement; it was intended to                                                               
regulate the factoring of them.  Factoring companies arose in the                                                               
mid-1990s for the purpose of  buying streams of payments. He told                                                               
members:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     There are  companies that  will buy  mortgage payments,                                                                    
     lottery payments, etc., but some  of them ventured into                                                                    
     buying  structured  settlements   and  we  became  very                                                                    
     concerned   because  the   people   who  receive   such                                                                    
     settlements are generally  people who have catastrophic                                                                    
     physical injuries and when represented  by counsel in a                                                                    
     claim  decided the  best  way for  them  to take  their                                                                    
     money  was  in  periodic  payments  so  they  would  be                                                                    
     assured of  never outliving their funds.  The factoring                                                                    
     companies entered  the scene  and started  buying these                                                                    
     payments. We  became concerned that a  number of people                                                                    
     might  lose the  security  of their  payments to  these                                                                    
     companies and end up falling  back on the social safety                                                                    
     net.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He explained how it works:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Assume  you're  getting  $2,000 a  month  tax-free.  A  factoring                                                               
company  would approach  you and  say,  'Listen, we  want to  buy                                                               
payments, but  we only want  to buy  $500 of your  $2,000.' After                                                               
signing a  20-page contract, your  $2,000 a month checks  will be                                                               
transferred  to  the  factoring  company in  your  name.  In  the                                                               
contract you  gave the  factoring company the  right to  cash the                                                               
$2,000 check,  which it  does. It  keeps the  $500 and  sends you                                                               
$1,500. He said this first  transaction is probably the best deal                                                               
it  is going  to  get,  because the  factoring  company knows  if                                                               
you're  talking   to  it,  you're  talking   to  other  factoring                                                               
companies. So this  best deal is 75 percent of  the present value                                                               
of  the payments  that you  sell, which  means you've  suffered a                                                               
discount rate of 25 percent.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
You used  to receive your $2,000  on the first of  the month, but                                                               
now the  factoring company receives  it on that date,  cashes it,                                                               
takes $500 and sends the balance  to you maybe on the second, the                                                               
fifth  or the  eighth  of the  month. Each  month  it delays  the                                                               
payments, which puts  economic pressure on you. You  call and ask                                                               
where  your  payment  is  and  they give  you  some  excuse.  The                                                               
pressure builds  up until  what you  really need  is to  get paid                                                               
another $500 a month. The factoring  company has to sell you that                                                               
payment, because  the contract gives  that factoring  company the                                                               
right of first refusal, plus  the factoring company controls your                                                               
check.  Now  that the  factoring  company  essentially owns  your                                                               
check, it's  only going to give  you half of what  it's worth. If                                                               
there is  a third deal,  they might give  you 25 percent  of what                                                               
it's worth and so on.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
You might realize the problem  is that the factoring company owns                                                               
your check so you contact the  annuity company and tell it not to                                                               
send the  factoring company  the check any  more. Once  the check                                                               
goes back  to you, you'll find  that you're in breach  of another                                                               
portion of the  20-page contract and at that  point the factoring                                                               
company will go  into court in its state, not  in Alaska, and get                                                               
an  order against  you that  gives it  the rights  to all  of the                                                               
payments until their judgment is satisfied.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DYER  said this bill  is important  because it will  end that                                                               
practice. A federal  bill was passed that will put  the hammer on                                                               
these  companies; it  imposes a  40 percent  excise tax  on these                                                               
transactions that  falls on the  factoring companies  unless they                                                               
can  get a  court order  that  allows them  to do  this. In  some                                                               
cases, it will be important for  some people to sell a portion of                                                               
their payments for good reasons  and they shouldn't be denied the                                                               
right to  do that. He  stated, "We want to  make sure that  it is                                                               
done fairly."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. DYER said this bill  provides important up-front disclosures.                                                               
For example, workers'  compensation payments may not  be sold and                                                               
this bill  provides for disclosures to  other interested parties.                                                               
A person who  owed child support couldn't sell  the child support                                                               
payments. This  legislation has been  enacted in 35 states  and a                                                               
number  of other  states are  considering it  this year.  It will                                                               
probably be enacted by all states in the next two years.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE  asked what  a  typical  cash  payment would  be  to                                                               
purchase that portion of the check.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. DYER  replied assuming your  payments were $500 for  the next                                                               
10 years and  your settlement had a value of  $20,000, that first                                                               
deal might  pay $15,000.  The next deal  wouldn't be  so generous                                                               
and you wouldn't have any other place to go.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SEEKINS  asked  where  the  statute  provides  that  the                                                               
parties to this agreement pay to the court.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DYER  said he believed  it was  in the statute,  but couldn't                                                               
find it.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  asked Mr. Dyer to  work with the bill's  sponsor and                                                               
said the committee would bring it up again.                                                                                     

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